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Buster Gunn
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Are w/u's taking longer? Reply with quote

Seems my machines have slowed down. Has anyone else slowed down? I haven't changed anything by my RAC is going down.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the new application has slowed some WU's down? Or maybe it needs a damn good kick Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here I noticed a drop checking machines found some of them had dropped from 650mhz to 450mhz the factory default is 650mhz and 700mhz ...... It must be the new app will keep checking to find the problem running boic 6.3.10 and win xp64 all my cards are 8800gt's and from various manufactures. Would advise everyone check the clock speed and ram speed
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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all my cards are 8800gt's


Same here. I noticed I'm getting some w/u's with over 20 minutes of cpu time lately compared to 20-30 seconds. Something changed at there end.
At least it will be the same for everyone.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't noticed anything on my systems, in fact my rac continues t slowly climb as a result of the improvements on the GTX series with the Linux app.....but I'll check them later.

I did notice a few weeks ago something strange where my CPU efficiency as recorded by the project was down at 50%. Of course GPUgrid doesn't use much CPU, but the scheduler still gets confused. If it is anything less that high 90's then Boinc thinks the system is in use for something else, even if it isn't - and that maybe due to the new scheduler stuff.

In Boinc 6.3.14 there were some changes to the scheduler I think. Do you have the ncpus+1 work around to use all you CPU cores plus the GPU? If so, it might be something to do with that interacting with the new scheduler.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm interesting. I didn't think PS3 Grid would have the ability to under clock a GPU? Shocked

Unless it is just not pressuring it as much, although i find that hard to believe. I will keep an eye out to see if my clock speed has dropped when i do another WU. Confused


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Maybe it would be a good idea to reboot the machines every so often? Give the GPU's a few minutes to come off of 100% load. I think steve mentioned something before about using the scheduler to automatically re-boot every X hours? However you would need to setup the pc's so that they would auto login (unless you run BOINC as a service).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it would seem that they released a new app 6.48 on the 16th oct this may be the problem???
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it would seem that they released a new app 6.48 on the 16th oct this may be the problem???


I don't know what happened but my times are returning to normal. From what I can tell, my problems started on the 14th and ended this AM. I'm staying away from any new Boinc client for now. They all seem flaky at best. Even 6.3.10 is not a gem. I can't control any new app from PS3.

I've read the PS3Grid forum and the admin there seems to shoot from the hip a lot, trying out things on the fly. I think his experimenting is causing most of the problems. I re-booted all my machines and re-installed the BOINC client from scratch along with the latest Cuda drivers this AM.

Whatever was wrong with my machines is now gone. I'll keep a better eye on things.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Buster Gunn"]
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it would seem that they released a new app 6.48 on the 16th oct this may be the problem???


I don't know what happened but my times are returning to normal. From what I can tell, my problems started on the 14th and ended this AM. I'm staying away from any new Boinc client for now. They all seem flaky at best. Even 6.3.10 is not a gem. I can't control any new app from PS3.

I've read the PS3Grid forum and the admin there seems to shoot from the hip a lot, trying out things on the fly. I think his experimenting is causing most of the problems. I re-booted all my machines and re-installed the BOINC client from scratch along with the latest Cuda drivers this AM.

Whatever was wrong with my machines is now gone. I'll keep a better eye on things.[/quote]


I agree with you that the BETA clients are not brilliant, as they have been just thrown together because of the fact they hadn't really allowed for GFX cards to be utilised until now. However saying that 6.3.14 seems to be working a treat so far. Maybe it is worth using this version?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe it is worth using this version?


I'll give it a try on 1 machine. Thanks Ben
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem. The link in case you do not know it:

x86 bit client (recommended if your not sure what version you have) - http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.3.14_windows_intelx86.exe

x64 bit client - http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.3.14_windows_x86_64.exe
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I'm concerned 6.3.10 works fine so I'll not be upgrading unless someone finds some totally new features. If you do let us know!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I installed 6.3.14. An hour later the machine was frozen solid.
6.3.10 was reloaded. I'll also wait for a better review on a new client.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been running fine for me Question

No crashs / lockups and seemed better then 6.3.10. Sorry to hear that, i was only going on what i have experienced on this machine. Where you using 2 cards or more in the same machine to run PS3 Grid?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where you using 2 cards or more in the same machine to run PS3 Grid?


No, just 1 card a 8800gt with only 3 other cores running. The machine is a Q6600 running Vista Ultimate 64 bit. I am really not a big fan of BOINC and there testing procedures on their clients. Until 6 months ago, I was still running 5.10.13 on all my machines. It was the only stable client I ever found.

I'm content to let others find the bugs. I think they spend way too much time trying to solve exotic problems for crunchers who have a unique situation rather than concentrate of the core client. I use the KISS principal most of the time, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.
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